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Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Rule of Drone Law

Joe Scarborough has been on a weeklong rampage after NBC’s Michael Isikoff found a memo that authorized the president to target American civilians abroad if they pose an imminent threat to our country. The word imminent is not clearly worded, and the definition is left to those who can order a drone kill. It doesn’t even say if the president is limited to killing suspected citizens in the United States.

I don’t mind Joe Scarborough being upset by this, but he keeps saying that liberals were outraged when President George W. Bush used to enhance interrogation methods (torture); however, now they remain silent. He doubled down by saying that we owe John Woo, the man who wrote the memo that authorized torture, an apology because it pales in comparison to drone strikes on American citizens who are denied due process. Joe’s apples and oranges analogy doesn’t hold water, even though both are unconstitutional. Joe Scarborough is not known for his thorough investigation of the facts, but he only has the look in his own network. MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O’Donnell, the New York Times, Chris Hayes and Katrina Vander Heuvel have been complaining about the drone strikes killing American citizens and innocent civilians, ever since Anwar al-Awlaki and his 16-year-old son Samir Khan, were killed by a drone strike. Rachel challenged the president last night. Republicans like Joe Scarborough always play the victim card and will never admit that the invasion of Iraq was a blunder from the start to the end. He thinks that this memo Isikoff found is some sort of vindication for the use of torture by the previous administration.

I’m still deeply troubled that we are still holding some detainees indefinitely without giving them their day in court. We have a little over 50 detainees who are ready to be released because we could not find anything to them charge them with, but  we can’t find a country to take them. I believe in our justice system, so I don’t see why we don’t try the remaining detainees in Federal courts, close Guantanamo Bay and send those who we find guilty to our super Max prisons. I don’t know what to do with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the man who plotted 9/11, because we tortured him, so any hopes of convicting him in civilian court is impossible, unless we throw out the constitution.

I’m delighted that Congress is looking to limit America’s authority to kill suspected terrorist and US Citizens. The Senate Foreign Relations will probably have a hearing, and they should insist that the administration let them see the classified Justice Department legal opinion justifying the drone strikes and especially those that target American citizens. I can see the justification for killing American citizens who are affiliated with groups who want to attack our country, but we still need to give them due process; whenever possible. I understand that Anwar al-Awlaki was always on the move, so we had to take him out at the first opportunity available. Congress needs to exercise its authority and uphold the rule of law and not use this occasion to make political points.

This the United States of America, a nation of laws, and not some third-world country that relies on memos as justification to circumvent our constitution. Upholding our laws and constitution does not weaken us; just the opposite. We can’t expect other countries to look up to us if we are doing the same things rogue nations do.


Perry Mason said...

I have a suggestion what to do with Mohammed. Treat him like the war criminal that he his.

911 victims didn't get any due process.

Mike said...

I've never been a fan of "they did it too." ....A nation/state nor was a religion responsible for 9/11;we killed the leaders and we have one in custody...If we are going to be nation that ignores due process let Congress put it up for a vote ,so we don't come back and have to try CIA,FBI or administration officials for war crimes.

Perry Mason said...

Didn't they use a war tribunal after WWII. After due process they were hanged, or imprisoned due to their atrocity or in accordance with.

I would imagine besides Americans in the Twin towers, there would be other nationalities that have /are grieving for the loss of loved ones.

Gave you some fair questions from the last blog and hope you take the time to answer them. Unless. . . Unless . . well?

Mike said...

Yes,we started using some of the methods & some of the crimes we hanged them for.

If you watch or watch the Nuremberg trials,you could see us during 9/11.

Great Britain ,Spain and probably every country in the world has been attacked and that has nothing to do on how we conduct ourselves from now now.

I just want a set of standards for this and future presidents not excuses or justifications for being an uncivilized country...We have the largest and best military in the world and with that comes responsibility.

Mike said...

POLITICO Breaking News
02/06/2013 07:29 PM EST (expires: 02/06/2013 08:29 PM EST)
President Barack Obama has reversed course and agreed to provide the congressional intelligence committees with classified Justice Department legal advice authorizing the use of drones to kill U.S. citizens abroad, an administration official said Wednesday evening.

The release of the information, which lawmakers had long sought, comes on the eve of a Senate hearing on the nomination of John Brennan to be the next CIA director. Some senators have suggested Brennan could be blocked if the administration is not more forthcoming.

Mike said...

As I understand it,the choice is about sending in 20 Seals to get a suspected American citizen and possibly losing 4 or 5 of them or using a drone and risk bad PR for killing innocent civilians...I'm just glad I won't ever have to make that decision.

Mike said...

I couldn't resist
Cut & paste

"Bill O'Reilly sat down with Fox News' designated liberal host Bob Beckel on Wednesday night and claimed that NBC News has not been covering the controversy over President Obama's drones policy in wake of the Justice Department memo that was recently obtained (see update below).

"Heard anything on NBC about the drones?" O'Reilly asked Beckel Wednesday night. Beckel said he had not. O'Reilly continued, "You haven't heard anything over there about this, neither have I, neither has my staff." The Fox News host then charged that NBC News has not discussed the White House drone policy because the network is "protecting the president."

Unfortunately for O'Reilly (and his staff), NBC News' Michael Isikoff obtained a copy of the memo discussing the legality of Obama's drones policy and broke the story exclusively for the network. The memo was a major get for Isikoff and the network, and has been a major topic of reporting and discussion on both NBC News and MSNBC since Monday night.

The story led NBC News' website Monday night and into Tuesday. MSNBC's Rachel Maddow hosted Isikoff on her show Monday night to discuss his major scoop. NBC's "Nightly News" also reported a story on the drones memo Tuesday night.

Moreover, the lead story on this very page Wednesday was about MSNBC's divided hosts. The network devoted a significant portion of its Tuesday coverage to discussing drones and the memo, and some hosts sharply disagree with one another. Hosts including Joe Scarborough, Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz, Chris Matthews and the roundtable of "The Cycle" all devoted major portions of their shows to the exclusively obtained drones memo.

This really leaves us wondering—has anyone over at O'Reilly's show turned on NBC News or MSNBC this week?

Just as I posted...Liberals are not afraid of the truth nor do they try to deceive as much as conservatives.