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Sunday, April 29, 2012

That’s Just not Right

Time flies by, I can't believe that I am approaching six years of posting and blogging; it's addictive and stimulating at the same time.  I began this hobby when a friend of mine told me how he spent a lot of time posting on ViCad and that I should give it a try.  At first I was in awe of the wealth of knowledge that I saw in everyone's postings, so it took me a long time before I had the nerve to post.

One day I just decided I was no longer going to try to be something I'm not, so I set my profile and avatar to let the readers know why I'm coming from because I just can't stand  superficial.  Every blogger had a niche back then; national politics(especially a liberal democrat's view) was not taken so I hit the books,newspapers, kept up with the Sunday talk shows and my new hobby was in full gear.  I loved it when a conservative said" I don't agree with a lot of your points but it's nice to see what the other side thinks." Bingo, that was my objective.I make discussing economic pretty easy because unless your ideas can pass both houses,it's pretty worthless.

Yesterday, I had a lot of time on my hands up so I started reading some of the older posts of the week.  It was disturbing to read BigJ's post advising a relatively new blogger,Bob Munoz, that he was being called a racist on another site.  I verified the info by going to that website and rereading Bob's blog.  That's a crock,Bob Munoz is a credible, articulate, nice man with a point of view and he should be able to express without a frivolous racist label being placed on him.  I have written several similar statements that are on his blog.  I defy anyone to point out the racist words embedded in his blog.  Everything he wrote in that particular blog can be heard or are seen or read in the media.  I will repeat them, Marco Rubio does not appeal to Mexican-Americans or Puerto Ricans. Cuban- Americans are very different, culturally and politically.  That's not racist; it's documented fact.  I don't do a lot of e-mailing unless something is weighing on my mind but I will not sit idly by and watch another credible blogger leave the forum ,due to a blatant lie.  I'm going to make him aware that intimidation will be used from time to time and he should consider the source. I'll also provide him with some examples.  He's a churchgoing family man ,so I'll wait until later this afternoon.  Character assassination without proof is another pet peeve of mine.

I give as well I take ,so I'm fair game and I don't usually get involved in on-line squabbles because like a martial spat,that worm can turn and I will become the bad guy. Politics by it's very nature is always controversial and it would perfectly acceptable to call Bob Munoz a partisan  but provide the proof if you are going to call him a racist.I willing to bet the proof will never appear.

Over at the VA,if I'm unfamiliar with  a poster ,I will look at their comment history before I engage with them because I like to know who I'm dealing with. There are several on my "do not engage" list because nothing productive will ever come from it.

18 comments:

BIGJ said...

Mike.

I am at my wits end here. Mike remember in December, I told you that the VICAD will be nasty before the 2012 election? Now you know. Instead of being a VicAd issue, one person decided to make this a personal one. Bob deserves respect and not to be lied about. This is why I firmly believe that anomyonity should be done away with.

When I was 'down' and dying last month, the author of that blog joked about me being in jail shows that man have more hatred in his heart than anyone I know. Two or three people on Facebook told me that the blog is full of lies and one of them is considering removing that blog from the list. I hope you do so as well.

A line has been crossed and I believe there is no way to turn this around. It is one thing to attack me, but it is another to bring family, their address, and their professional ties. It seems that the person wants war and over what? Because He got himself banned? How stupid is this. If this keeps up, legal action may be taken.

Mike said...

BigJ
A lot of us knew that 2012 would be vicious and it's one of the few things that I was right on in my predictions for 2012 but all of us were basing it on the 2007-08 election season. I am surprised that we've had two consecutive Obama bashing letters without a response. Local elections and issues will start the flame but most of the complainers are conservatives and those that don't care aren't responding.

I disagree; the call for using real names would probably reduce the viewership at VA by 70%. If only 20 or 30 people posted, you might go hours between posts. You and others who use their real names make the same comments using your name or an assumed name as do I using Mike. I have equal respect for those that use their real names and those that don't because it’s your words that count, not the name you signed off with.

Bob Munoz is not an attacker and deserves to be treated as such... People shouldn't take my word, they need to go over to the VA pull his blogs, read them and judge for themselves. Like I said, I defy anyone to find something racial...Post it right here, if they find something and I'll admit I'm wrong. I'm not going to hold my breath... I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out why he was singled out.

A lot of people hate me for various reasons but I'm not going to make myself an open target by using Facebook. A couple posters advised me to stay off Facebook and I took their advice. I don't intentionally instigate my haters but I also realize that my blog and words infuriates them. That's their problem.

Hey, if you'd think we're bad at the VA, you should have seen Jimmy Kimmel last night at the correspondent’s dinner. I felt sorry for Newt Gingrich.
I will remain neutral in the three years or more on-line feud.

Mike said...

I was wrong had a couple of takers but Zero answered it and I will see what's that all about tomorrow...:-)

BIGJ said...

Mike.

All I can say is that there is no turning back on this. You said Vicad would lose 70% with real names. I say let it happen. If they can't back it up then they should keep their mouths shut. Monday and tuesday, I am considering publishing a blog on this matter and more. I will be going in with both barrels blazing while I'll call these punks out and the Victoria Adovcate as well. If Vicad had done its job three years ago, Mike Austin, Bighorn, etc wouldn't have gone that far in their trouble making.

Mike said...

BigJ
I would leave the VA if I had to use my real name along with several others.. I'm proud of the fact that my comments have only been deleted one time (and I deserved it)..You give the rowdy posters too much credit, I do fine by ignoring them. Those guys think I'm an idiot and it doesn't bother me in the least bit because I consider the source.

I'm a guest at the VA, if I can't live by their rules or the content of THEIR newspaper, I will happily leave and not look back.

I've had two or three blogs devoted to bashing me, (not counting the three that were removed by the VA) and they did not deter me one bit..Just saying.

BIGJ said...

Mike.

I wish I could agree with you and last year or so, I would, but when family is being stalked? I think certain people should be outed and if needed punish for their deeds. After I post this upcoming blog, hopefully I will take a hitaus. I hope that would stop the shying and the stalking, but it doesn't well I won't be responiable for what I say or do.

Mike said...

BigJ

All I know is that I am just a lowly poster at the VA,my exit would not be missed and their sucess or failure will not have a thing to do with my departure....But right now I have something to say and I won't be intimidated by those who want to marginalize me.

You have to do what you think is right (I'm not a lawyer) but don't leave a paper trail of threats or retaliation because it may come back to bite you...besides it's fodder for your enemies...

BIGJ said...

Mike.

I have series of emails, facebook messages, etc. I will research the 2001 online stalking law a bit more before I make a final decision. I also believe the whole grimick of him asking for a personal meeting with us three months ago was a trap to had someone arrested. Do you remember that blog?

BIGJ said...

Mike.

I have series of emails, facebook messages, etc. I will research the 2001 online stalking law a bit more before I make a final decision. I also believe the whole grimick of him asking for a personal meeting with us three months ago was a trap to had someone arrested. Do you remember that blog?

Mike said...

Lol...I actually mentioned that meeting in an email last night...I said we would be the ones being discussed on the ViCad police beat section if that get-together ever became a reality.

Trap? Don't think so.

Anonymous said...

BigJ: Your attitude, behavior and repeated hate speech has marginalized your own self.

Bighorn

Mike said...

Bighorn you said
"BigJ: Your attitude, behavior and repeated hate speech has marginalized your own self."

It would be very, very, very hypocritical of me to lecture anyone about their online forum etiquette. I'm not perfect and have stated that the subject I chose to write about will always stir up folks who disagree with me. I'm guilty of using this blog for going after my opponents but everyone has a same option.

I get a big laugh every time one particular poster accuses BigJ, of stirring up the excrement and then challenges the VA to delete the poster, yet he chastises everyone who disagrees with him about the police, politics or anything else he thinks he thinks he’s an expert on.

BigJ and I disagree a lot but as much as I've deserved it sometimes; he has never disrespected me. A poster described him as being overly passionate and I have to agree. That’s his personality... I've told BigJ that he likes the in-your- face style ,so he deserves what he gets to a point....This is 2012, I don't believe anyone deserves racial epithets or known words (boy) because those are the inflammable words of the fifties to denigrate someone to their lowest form. They were used by people who had a superiority complex.

A poster once logged onto my blog to criticize me for being so partisan. I've told him that he would have impressed me if he had said the same thing to the right wing bloggers. My Point: I have seen many racial comments that were allowed to stand without repercussions from the posters that are complaining about a blogger being racist. Bob Munoz never called for a soldier with a .50 caliber machine gun on our southern border to shoot anything moving north. And then recanted because they might hit a stray animal. BTW are you willing to explain what you saw that was racial in Bob's blog?

I’ll discuss race but the conversation has to start in the 1850s and slowly move to 1950 before we can understand the problems of today. It’s a two-way street.

Mike said...

Never mind Bighorn,Bob Munoz offered the appropriate challenge at the VA where the viewership is 100 times greater than this little blog site.

BIGJ said...

Mike I have laugh at Little Horn's rants. Do I have to go to my flash drive and dig up Little Horn's offensive comments?

Enough about little Horn and the bully goat hippy. Wasn't it Swbones, aka Shannon, who wanted 50 caliber guns aimed at Mexico? Didn't Bighorn call a hispanic girl the 'S' word? Wasn't it GetSmart, who call the First Lady, a name? wasn't it Gary White who made series of anti-Catholic comments. Yet these bastards think I am the troublemaker?

Mike said...

Shannon might have posted it at one time but so did STWWW and he admits it.

Yes,I'll let this blog stand the rest of today and then I'm moving on.

Two wrongs never make a right,so I never agreed with minorities who made disparaging remarks against white people at the VA and yes,unfortunately we had some of those...I certainly won't tolerate it on this blog...My comment history is an open book.

I remember the Spanish land grant blogs,I never posted on it because I never agreed with any of of her points besides she was too militant...On the other hand I completely ignored Thors "birther" blog and rarely on Kenneth's ant-Obama blog.

I love people,so I don't have a litmus test.

I can do "ignore" with the best of them....:-)

BIGJ said...

My God...!!! Please don't get me started about Waywardwind. That man is CLUELESS or plum stupid. If nothing affects him, then why post? Vet43 is right, the man is very selfish.

BIGJ said...

Mike.

It seems that a minor victory is at hand. However, I said the word 'seems'. The person in question should be careful in his words about me and my family. My political views are public. If I am a racist then why do you, Dale Zuck, Edith Ann and sometimes Matt Ocker get along with me? Some people like Mike Austin of Katy need to make up their mind, either I am a racist or I am not. Mike Austin have done his homework, he would know I fought the NAACP at SHSU and their race baiting. He would have know my family aren't all black. My great Uncle is White with blue eyes. To call me a racist for calling out posters and local politicans i proof he or BIG HORN have no leg to stand on.

Mike said...

BigJ

I have to admit,I don't don't understand you because racism goes two ways and has nothing to do if you share political views with another poster of a different race....It's not something you have to prove because it's understood as Bob said in his blog...In all the years I've been posting ,I've never had the need to post examples to prove I'm not a racist...I'm just not and I don't feel the need to have to prove it......For example (I hope you take this in the right way) but when you go into a lot of reasons you disagree with Obama (his key issues) then people will naturally think you just voted for him because he's black.....I know it could be because he's a Democrat or better than the other guy but some won't see it that way.

Example,just say I don't always agree with the president instead of saying you don't agree with his key issues...IMO

Remember,that old "I'm not a racist my wife is black or one of friends is black."